Ep 54 - How to Get Your Wife to Do What a Girlfriend Does

[00:09] Keeping the Girlfriend Energy Alive

Dr. Bawa: Welcome to another episode of Dr. Sex Fairy. I am Dr. Kanwal Bawa, America's favorite sex doctor, and I am here to transform your life. Do you follow my TikTok account, Dr. Sex Fairy? You really should. You will pick up all kinds of tips and tricks and even have a laugh or two.

Dr. Bawa: Today we are going to talk about how to get your wife to do what your girlfriend does. But this episode is not about cheating. We aren't getting dark here. This episode is about how to have fun in your relationship and how to have a more fulfilling sex life. We aren't going into swingers and polyamory. This is not to diss any of that. We're just not getting into that.

Dr. Bawa: You've got to share this episode with your partner so that you can start communicating about what you both want and need. But before we get started, let's make sure that you follow me here so that you never miss a Dr. Sex Fairy Podcast episode. And please support this podcast and me by leaving a five-star review.

Dr. Bawa: My guest today is Jordyn Hakes, the host of the very, very popular Horny Housewife Podcast. Jordyn and I discussed the art of the blowjob in Episode 46 of the Dr. Sex Fairy Podcast, and I had to bring her back for another great conversation. Welcome back, Jordyn.

Jordyn Hakes: Hello. I'm so glad to be back. Had so much fun the first time.

Dr. Bawa: It's so fun having you on the Dr. Sex Fairy Podcast. So let's talk about how to get your wife to do what your girlfriend does, a.k.a. bringing fun back into your relationship.

Jordyn Hakes: One of my favorite topics.

Dr. Bawa: So let's talk about love languages. How do you think love languages affect fun in a relationship and that excitement that you feel with a girlfriend, but perhaps not with your wife?

[02:04] Love Languages and Showing Up

Jordyn Hakes: I think it's super, super important. And when you're dating, when it's your girlfriend or your boyfriend, whatever, you're more keen. You're your best self. I feel like you don't even really know the person until you've been with them six months, a year, because you're putting your best foot forward. If you're a woman, you're hiding the crazy. You're stuffing the crazy down, and you're going to let it out when your claws are sunk into him.

Jordyn Hakes: But I think that with women, we're more relational, in my opinion, and I think it's easier for us to pick up on what he likes. And if we're trying to impress him, you know how to do it. You know how to turn it on versus when you don't care. And men, y'all are trying way harder. You're trying to stand out. She's not a hundred percent yours yet, and so you're trying. You have to figure out: in which way does she receive love?

Jordyn Hakes: Unfortunately, there are people that end up getting married and they don't even know each other's love languages. It's not until they're miserable and saying, 'You never do this, and you don't ever do that, and show me love,' when the whole time they just perceive and receive love differently. I think some people assume their spouse's love language or their significant other's love language, and they're wrong. So you have to communicate. There are quizzes you can take on the internet to see which one it is.

Jordyn Hakes: What are the love languages? Physical touch, quality time, acts of service, gifts... what did I say?

Dr. Bawa: Yeah, you said them all, I think. Words of affirmation.

Jordyn Hakes: Yeah, words of affirmation. Words and touch, which I feel like a lot of guys are words and touch, but I'm words and touch. And so I think you have to know those because if you're doing it wrong, you're going to miss the mark every time.

[04:00] What Makes Each Person Feel Loved

Dr. Bawa: Absolutely. Now I'm trying to think what my love languages are.

Jordyn Hakes: Can everything be your love language?

Dr. Bawa: I think you can have an order, like your top three for sure.

Jordyn Hakes: Because, yeah, I love gifts too. I mean, I love them all, but I really need someone to hype me up.

Dr. Bawa: If I had to pick, I think my favorite love language would probably be quality time. And then it would be words of affirmation. That makes me feel like the person's in the right headspace for the relationship, I suppose. Physical touch, and then acts of service, where they want to do nice things for me and help me and just make my life nicer, better. And then I think gifts would be number five for me. They would be the least important.

Jordyn Hakes: Well, that's really not shallow of you and materialistic, because gifts would be right after physical touch for me.

[05:00] Emotional Availability and the Little Things

Dr. Bawa: And that's fine too. That's fine. I just feel that I personally need somebody who spends more time with me. And it doesn't necessarily even have to be in person. Even if it's just a text, if it's just a quick phone call: 'Hi, how's your day going? Oh, I'm just driving to CVS. This happened, that happened, so-and-so pissed me off,' or, 'I had a really great day, and this is why it was a great day. Had a great podcast guest. She's from the Horny Housewife Podcast, and I love her. She's awesome.'

Dr. Bawa: Simple things, but just being involved with each other's life and knowing what's going on. I think that's important to me.

Jordyn Hakes: I completely agree. And I think what you just described is someone being emotionally available to you, because it's someone that gives a shit. Oops, pardon me.

Dr. Bawa: No, you're allowed to say that.

Jordyn Hakes: Okay. It's someone that gives a shit about your day, or even, like, faking it. I know when you've been in a long-term relationship for a long time that you don't feel like you need to say, 'How was your day?' Maybe you feel like you already know how their day went. But these little things go so far, especially for women. I think for the majority, maybe not all, the little things can really add up.

Jordyn Hakes: And the little things also can gain a lot of momentum for you. So if you're trying to spice it up in the bedroom, just little things. Some people are like, 'I can't afford to buy her flowers every day.' You could write her a nice little note. There are tons of free things that you don't need to dish out a bunch of cash to show her that you care.

[06:36] Thoughtfulness, Appreciation, and Connection

Dr. Bawa: Agreed, a hundred percent. It's so important to do thoughtful things, whether it's a note left in the fridge, even. I had that happen to me once. I was just so touched. Something as simple as that made me feel loved.

Jordyn Hakes: I know. I never get rid of those things because it was some little token of appreciation. And the guy, they might think, 'Well, that's so silly.' It's like, you don't even know how much power you have, guys, to remind this woman that she's special.

Jordyn Hakes: And if you want her to be vulnerable in the bedroom and receptive in the bedroom and want to initiate sex, you've got to have that connection there. That's really important for women.

[07:16] Space, Trust, and Thoughtful Gestures

Dr. Bawa: Yes, you've got to be loved and appreciated. And, you know, set her free. Let her go on a girls' night out. Let her have that time with her girlfriends to bitch and have fun and laugh and let off some steam. And maybe she'll come back more whole than she left.

Jordyn Hakes: She'll probably come back drunk and horny.

Dr. Bawa: So let her go. Let her ease into whatever it is your relationship is. Let her have those moments, those breaks. And I think men should be allowed to have those too, because very often relationships can be very stifling, where you get offended if the person goes out without you in the evening.

Dr. Bawa: But there's got to be that trust, though, right? Because in a regular monogamous relationship, you don't want your partner cheating on you or flirting with other people. Well, some people may think flirting is okay; some people don't think it is. That's whatever's right for your relationship. But you've got to let them be. You've got to let them breathe.

Dr. Bawa: And maybe if she's going on a girls' weekend trip or something and you leave a few notes in her luggage that she finds over time during the weekend, how sweet would that be?

[08:21] Sexting and Dating Your Spouse Again

Jordyn Hakes: And same if the guy is going out of town: the girl leaving maybe a naughty little something, whether it's her panties that you pack in there, dirty panties in his jacket pocket, anything you want it to be. Just a little memento. I think men will find that super sexy. That's such a girlfriend move that wives aren't doing anymore.

Jordyn Hakes: The sexting, which some people aren't comfortable with, but if you are, if you used to be sexting or you used to do all these things when you were the girlfriend that you're like, 'Oh wow, I haven't done those in a couple of years,' or ever since we had kids, or ever since we got married, it's time to date your spouse again.

Dr. Bawa: Yes. I mean, sexting is highly underrated. You can tell him what you want to do to him and later make good on your threat.

Jordyn Hakes: And it's great. It builds anticipation and it's arousing, and then you've got something to think about and feel aroused about.

Dr. Bawa: And like you said, here's the beauty of it: it costs nothing.

Jordyn Hakes: Exactly. I hate when guys give that excuse.

[09:21] Intention, Commitment, and Keeping the Fun Alive

Dr. Bawa: Yeah, it's not an excuse. Just to get that excitement in a relationship, it doesn't cost you anything but some thoughtfulness, right? Just think about those things. Intention. If you want it to be good, it will be good. Now, I'm not saying that there aren't some people with mental illness of some kind; there's no saving some relationships. I get it. But for the most part, you can salvage a relationship. You can bring that fun back.

Dr. Bawa: Now, I'm from India, and people say, 'Oh, Indian marriages last because they're just not allowed to divorce.' That's not true. That's not true at all. I was raised to think that marriage was for keeps. There's no concept of starter marriages in India, and I've spoken about this on the podcast before. This is not to diss American or Western culture. It's just that I grew up with a different mindset that marriage is for keeps.

Dr. Bawa: And so when you decide that marriage is for keeps - now, the irony is I'm divorced, but that's a whole other can of worms - the idea is that you do what it takes to keep the spice alive. You do what it takes to keep the fun in the relationship because you're not giving yourself that exit option. And it's surprising how well your relationship will go when you're simply not giving yourself that option.

[10:33] Evolving Together

Jordyn Hakes: A hundred percent. I agree so much, because for the couples where that's not on the table, when there are couples that constantly create this out, or this, 'This no longer serves me, I'm out,' it's a very, very conditional kind of thing. The commitment has all these conditions on it, versus people who are like, 'This is what we set out to do. We know that life is full of curveballs and seasons and us evolving.'

Jordyn Hakes: And it's really important that you evolve together and talk about it. Going back to the bedroom, if you don't express what you want, don't expect to get it. And what you may be into in the girlfriend phase, you may find out 10 years later that you're really into X, Y, and Z, and you don't know how to share it with your partner. I think that's important to do. And you may be surprised at how they react to you. They may be totally down.

Dr. Bawa: Absolutely. We evolve. We grow in different ways. And what worked may not work. And what we were convinced we would not do, maybe now we're suddenly into it because now it suddenly seems more exciting 15, 20, 30 years out. You're into that now because maybe you've let go of those walls you had around you.

Jordyn Hakes: And that's a cool thing to do for the couples that are super committed: be intentional and open-minded and curious to see. Like, I have you forever, so let's explore and learn one another's bodies and have the best sex we possibly can.

[12:04] Jim and Cindy: Function Matters Too

Dr. Bawa: Yes. And I have this couple I've mentioned before on the podcast several times. Their names are Jim and Cindy, 70 years old, having sex twice a day. They met later in life. She was a widow and she'd not had sex for many years. And I can say all this - it's not a HIPAA violation because I have her permission. They're the best. They are the best.

Dr. Bawa: So she hadn't been having sex for a while because her husband had issues. She was in her 60s, then he died. Then she was recovering from the fact that she was now a widow. Then she meets Jim online. Now, Jim lives in Las Vegas; she lives in South Florida, in Boca. And they meet online, and he comes to visit. I think she went to visit and then he came, but however it was, they were frisky as all hell.

Dr. Bawa: But being frisky isn't enough. You need function too, right? So when you want your wife to be your girlfriend, you've got to have the function as well. As you're getting older, like these two are getting older, they didn't have as much function. They came to me for help. And guess what? I helped Jim with his erectile dysfunction. I helped make Cindy's vagina sing Drake. And next thing you know, they're having crazy, wild sex, legendary sex, twice-a-day sex.

Dr. Bawa: And they are happy. They got married. She was wearing a white bikini on the beach, of course. What else would Cindy wear? And I was invited to the wedding, of course, because I helped orchestrate that whole thing. I helped your penis, I helped that vagina, I made this damn thing happen. I better be invited! No, but I really was invited. And it's great.

[13:35] Women's Bodies Change Over Time

Dr. Bawa: So I think that when you're going into these long-term relationships, for you to want your wife to be like your girlfriend, also remember that her body is changing. And you've got to understand that as she's getting menopausal, her hormones aren't what they were. Her vaginal tissue isn't what it was. She's probably loosey-goosey down under. That's my medical term: loosey-goosey. But vaginal laxity is a real problem.

Dr. Bawa: So you can tighten that vagina. You can make it more pleasurable for her. Maybe she has incontinence. Maybe she's embarrassed if you go down on her, she's smelling of urine. So this has to be discussed kindly, gently, but you've got to be sensitive to what's going on with her and help her get help.

Dr. Bawa: For instance, if you're a man listening to this podcast, share this with her. Just send it. Let her know, 'Hey, I heard this fun podcast,' and share it with her. Maybe it's a way to quietly start that conversation without being too overt about what you're trying to achieve, maybe initially testing the waters. So it's nice to send these resources as gentle reminders or just prodding them along a little bit at a time.

Jordyn Hakes: For sure.

[14:49] Kegels and Pelvic Floor Strength

Jordyn Hakes: Oh gosh, having outside sources to help you because you don't know it all. You know what I mean? We need to learn from other places. When you were talking about the loosey-goosey, I want to know: do Kegels not really work?

Dr. Bawa: The problem with Kegels is that there's not enough strength in what you can do yourself. I actually have a device in my office. It's like a vaginal probe, like a dildo. We lube that puppy up and we put it inside you, and it Kegels for you.

Dr. Bawa: Now, it's not a lazy woman's Kegel. It's not that at all. Because you can keep Kegeling with the best intention at every red light, like they tell you: just Kegel at red lights. Every red light, I look left and right. I'm like, I wonder how many of these damn women are Kegeling right now.

Dr. Bawa: So the thing is, you can't put enough oomph in it to get the job done. I'm not saying they're useless. They do serve some purpose, but they're not going to be able to do that.

Jordyn Hakes: You have to sit there all day.

Dr. Bawa: Yeah, and even then you're not going to get that much muscle stimulation, because that's the point: you're stimulating the muscle, right? You can't stimulate it that much. So this machine literally Kegels for you. If only I could show you a video. We have a rendering of how it actually stimulates the muscle, how it goes. And that kind of thing is going to make your vagina - it's going to take it back in time.

Jordyn Hakes: Like you were a virgin.

[16:08] Vaginal Rejuvenation Options

Dr. Bawa: Oh, my friend, the things I can do to your vagina, as dysfunctional as that may sound. It's not meant to be kinky. No, really, I can tighten your vagina. I can help you with your pelvic floor strength with the Kegels, with the device. I can do a nonsurgical labiaplasty and make your labia look beautiful as can be, like back when you were new and 20 years old.

Jordyn Hakes: You know what I mean.

Dr. Bawa: So you can really, really amp things up. And then I do the BawaShot®. People have heard of the O-Shot. I do the BawaShot®. It's my version of it because I have done so many of them that I've come to a point where I know exactly how I like to do it.

Dr. Bawa: And I inject the women painlessly, and I am using their blood, their growth factors, to stimulate their stem cells. So I am increasing the size of the clitoris, I am making it more sensitive, and I'm also injecting inside the vaginal canal to help that rejuvenate itself. So if you want your wife to be your girlfriend, help her know that there is all this out there. Help her get help.

[17:22] Childbirth, Incontinence, and Sexual Function

Jordyn Hakes: That is a part of the girlfriend experience, feeling like your vagina before you had all those children. And incontinence, for example: before I had kids, I thought that was really old people. And it's actually not really old people, because if I sneeze three times in a row, I pee on myself. So I can't do more than 10 jumping jacks a week. Not really, but all I know is that childbirth can change the whole game.

[17:50] Erectile Dysfunction and Long-Term Function

Dr. Bawa: It can, and cancer can. Menopause can. So much can change. So it's okay to accept that there's a problem and get help for it. And also, if you want your wife to be and do what your girlfriend does, well, how about you have the penis you used to have back then?

Dr. Bawa: Because as you're getting older, your risk of erectile dysfunction is going up 10% for every decade of life. So 40% of men in their 40s, 50% of men in their 50s. If you're not rocking her world, how is she going to want to rock yours? These things are fixable. And you don't have to take Viagra and Cialis. In fact, I don't prescribe Viagra and Cialis in my practice. I help men genuinely get better, and that lasts for the long term instead of a little Band-Aid quick fix.

Dr. Bawa: And without the side effects of medicines like Viagra and Cialis, and even Trimix, the shot that men give themselves in the penis to get an erection. Do you know that from that you can get priapism, which is an erection that doesn't go away? Now, I don't know if you know, but I am a Cleveland Clinic-trained, board-certified ER doctor as well, and I worked in the ERs for the better part of two decades at this point. Do you know how many men I saw coming in for this? They're traumatized.

Jordyn Hakes: Oh my God. So their dick - their penis - just stayed completely hard?

Dr. Bawa: Stayed hard. And initially they thought that was the best thing ever.

Jordyn Hakes: Yeah.

Dr. Bawa: And can you imagine how embarrassing it is for them to come into the ER with that? They're traumatized. It's horrible. And then, if the medicines don't work, you have to cut it and drain it. You can have long-term impotence from this because time is penis. If you have an erection for 24 hours, you're never getting it up again. You're just not. So then you need an implant and all kinds of things. It's just a mess.

Dr. Bawa: So people think it's so benign taking these meds. In fact, some guys come and say to me, 'Well, Dr. Bawa, I am going on a vacation. Will you just write me for a few pills?' And I say, 'Are you joking? Why? No, no. Do some extra BawaWave® treatments before you go. Get that blood flowing. I'm not writing you Viagra. Are you insane?'

[19:49] The Whole Package: Health, Desire, and Intention

Jordyn Hakes: No. Yeah. It's just a little quick fix, instant gratification. And beyond your genitals and keeping that all right and tight, I think it's the whole package. If we want the girlfriend experience and you want it spicy in the bedroom, you have to be intentional. And people care about people who care about themselves.

Jordyn Hakes: So staying in shape, treating your body like a temple - meaning not putting shit food in it all the time - is really important. I think that affects your drive. If you come home every day and you put on the TV and you drink alcohol, don't expect to have a high sex drive and feel connected with your partner.

Dr. Bawa: And don't expect to have the function to go with it either. Because if you're not exercising - and I'm not saying Tom Brady exercising; that's not even reasonable for anybody but Tom Brady - I feel that if you're not exercising, get some kind of movement in your life. Be it a walk, be it a few minutes on the treadmill, be it an elliptical or some weights, you've got to get that blood flowing. You've got to get those muscles pumping somehow.

Jordyn Hakes: And your heart beating.

Dr. Bawa: Yeah, you've got to get your heart rate up, whatever is safely possible. Some people aren't allowed to do that, but most people are. And you've got to get that blood flowing. You've got to get moving. You've got to also keep the alcohol down because that's going to affect everything. It's going to increase your weight. It's going to do everything that we just discussed. And here's the other problem with being overweight: your penis starts to look smaller.

[21:23] Weight, Attraction, and Taking Care of Yourself

Jordyn Hakes: It does. Brutal truth: the bigger the belly...

Dr. Bawa: The penis starts to just go - it just gets sucked up.

Jordyn Hakes: And then you're trying to look for it, and that's not sexy. It's not sexy. And I know our bodies change as we get older, but I think you make time for what's important. You can make time for literally anything if you want it bad enough. And that should be taking care of yourself, because it affects everything.

Dr. Bawa: And I don't want to hear that you can't afford a gym membership. You don't have to have a gym membership. You can do things at home with soup cans if you have to. You can go out for a walk. A walk costs nothing but some walking shoes. I think you've got to take care of yourself. And same for women: you have got to take care of yourself physically. Or what is your man going to be attracted to, really? We are physical creatures. I'm not saying that a relationship should be just about aesthetics, but don't we first get attracted with our eyes?

Jordyn Hakes: Right. It's like a primal attraction. And I know some people don't like admitting that, but it is true. And then if you let yourself go - I know that's a mean term, but it is something that people do - and they're just not trying anymore, it's obvious. You can get into this roommate phase where maybe you're being great teammates. Maybe there's not some underlying resentment where you hate each other. That's great. But if there's no sexiness, if you're not dating each other at all, then all the passion flies out the window.

Jordyn Hakes: And then he starts noticing his secretary who dresses up every day. That's terrible. That was dark, and you said you didn't want to get dark.

Dr. Bawa: No, no, but it happens though.

[23:12] When Sex Therapy Belongs in the Conversation

Dr. Bawa: And I'm not saying that there's justification for immorality or for cheating and infidelity.

Jordyn Hakes: No, we're not saying that.

Dr. Bawa: And I know neither are you. I get that. But that's when I start to wonder, because you've got to get your thrill somewhere, right? So you're neglecting it. It's better to just take care of yourself, take care of your partner, and keep it home.

Dr. Bawa: And then the other thing I want to tell people is that sometimes you need sex therapy. I can help you with the sexual medicine. I can help you with all the function. But it's okay to admit that maybe you need to talk to somebody, and you should be open to that. Because maybe if you can get that spark back emotionally and psychologically, and I give you the function physically, now suddenly that's a game changer.

Jordyn Hakes: You've got the formula to get it back.

Dr. Bawa: I've got that secret sauce.

Jordyn Hakes: And I've talked to some sex therapists, and I know it can sound so intimidating, but some of them are like, when couples first come in, sex isn't even the first thing we're talking about. It's a bunch of other stuff, because a lot of the time it's a symptom of something else or some underlying issue or anxiety or miscommunication.

Jordyn Hakes: And if we can get that all cleared up, or it can be something that has nothing to do with your partner and everything to do with yourself and your own confidence and sexuality as a person.

[24:33] Culture, Sexuality, and Learned Beliefs

Dr. Bawa: Yes, and sometimes it can be cultural. For instance, maybe they grew up in a very sex-negative household. Maybe Mom and Dad were very physically distant and cold with each other, and that's what they saw. And we model what we grow up with to quite an extent. So sometimes you have to break them free of the shackles of their childhood.

Dr. Bawa: I'm not blaming everything - 'Mom and Dad did this, and everything is their fault.' No. But sometimes that happens. It's an issue. So sex therapy can be a great way to pull that out of people.

Jordyn Hakes: Yeah. I don't want to religion-shame or anything, but I definitely know I have close friends and people who have culturally been instilled with maybe limiting beliefs around their sexuality, or they didn't see at home intimacy or connection between their parents - no PDA, no touching, no kissing - and so they kind of feel uncomfortable. Sometimes sex therapy can be a great way for them to discover themselves more.

[25:35] Combining Sexual Medicine and Sex Therapy

Dr. Bawa: Yeah, and on my last episode with you, 'The Art of the Blow Job,' I had mentioned my friend Dr. Jacobson. I refer a lot of my patients to him, and I jokingly tell them - and it's true - that I don't get anything out of it. He's not even giving me a Starbucks gift card. He's that good.

Dr. Bawa: I think that it's a great adjunct to what I do because I can provide them the genitalia and the function of their dreams. I can make penises go from... to epic. I can make vaginas tight as they came, you know, back when you were...

Jordyn Hakes: Do you have a gallery? A before-and-after gallery?

Dr. Bawa: I do. I do, actually.

[26:15] Understanding the Real Barrier to Orgasm

Dr. Bawa: You can look at drsexfairy.com. There's a gallery on there. After we're done recording, go look. So, you know, I think it's just important that your head's in the right place, and that's how I help some of my patients get there. I don't send everybody to therapy, but some of them do need it.

Dr. Bawa: I have this lady who comes to me. She was talking about how she's not orgasmic. And I always ask the men, when they talk about ED, 'Are you able to masturbate without a problem?' Because then that tells me there's maybe a relationship issue, not so much function. And if the women come in and say, 'I'm just not orgasmic,' I ask them: Are you having penetrative sex? Are you not orgasmic when he goes down on you? Are you using sex toys? I ask those questions. They're relevant because I really get into why this is happening.

Dr. Bawa: And that's what makes me so good at what I do, is I really understand what the problem is by the time I get started with the physical treatments. So this lady says to me, 'Well, he doesn't go down on me.' So I'm thinking, I'm assuming that he's refusing to go down on her. So I say, 'Well, when did he stop doing that? Why did he stop doing that? Was there an incident?' She said, 'Well, because I don't let him.'

Dr. Bawa: And I said, 'Why? Did you have something happen?' She's like, 'No. I just think that he'll think I'm dirty.' I said, 'Why? You've had two children with this man. This is not a new boyfriend. You grew up with this guy. I don't think he thinks you're dirty. He's still with you, right?' And so here we are. Anyway, so I sent them to Dr. Jacobson.

Jordyn Hakes: Wow, that's interesting. That had everything to do with her and her self-esteem, and what she thought of it. And I'm sure he probably wanted to go down there. He's probably not thinking she's dirty. So if he wants his wife to be his girlfriend, he better get her to the sex therapist.

Dr. Bawa: True that, yeah.

Jordyn Hakes: Being that safe space for your person - if they come to you with something, don't diss them or dismiss them or brush it off. You're only hurting yourself too. You're hurting the connection that you have and ultimately killing the passion in the bedroom.

[28:21] Starting the Conversation With Your Partner

Dr. Bawa: Yes. I mean, most people will feel that their relationship with their partner is worth salvaging. And that's why I say that if you want your wife to be your girlfriend or to do what your girlfriend does, think about these things. Maybe send her this podcast as a link. Get that conversation going, right? I mean, that's why you and I decided to talk about it, because it's a real issue. People are suffering.

Jordyn Hakes: Yeah. I think this is a great resource. I'm sure all of your episodes are really interesting and helpful. And, I mean, a lot of our relationships have high stakes. People aren't wanting to leave. They've got kids and a mortgage and a life together. They want to be with their partner.

Dr. Bawa: Yes.

[29:03] Great Sex, Orgasms, and Where to Find Jordyn

Jordyn Hakes: And I think that we only have one life. You should be having great sex and you should be having an orgasm.

Dr. Bawa: There you go. Great words to end this podcast with. So, how can people find you, Jordyn?

Jordyn Hakes: You can listen to me on my podcast, The Horny Housewife Podcast, wherever you enjoy podcasts. And you can find me on social media, on Instagram, at @_thehornyhousewifepodcast.

Dr. Bawa: Thank you so much for coming.

Jordyn Hakes: Thanks for having me again. I had so much fun.

Dr. Bawa: Always a blast with you, my friend. And to my listeners, thank you, thank you for listening. I hope you learned some fun tips on how to make your wife your girlfriend once again, how to make your husband your boyfriend again. Life is short. Have orgasms. Until next time.

[29:52] Recorded Outro

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