Ep. 3 - The Second Coming: Bringing Back Sex & Passion

[00:00] Introduction: The Second Coming

Dr. Bawa: Hello everyone. Welcome back to another episode of the Dr. Sex Fairy Podcast. I am Dr. Kanwal Bawa and I am here to transform your life. Our episode today is titled The Second Coming. We are going to discuss the topic of age as it relates to sex. As we get older, we tend to have less and less sex, most of us anyway. The most sexually active group is between 18 and 39 years of age. They have sex an average of 78 times a year. As people get older, this number declines.

Dr. Bawa: People between the ages of 50 and 59 have sex 38 times per year. Those in their 60s have sex an average of about 25 times per year. And then there is the case of Jim and Cindy. These two lovebirds came to me a few months ago for help improving their sex life.

[01:11] Continued Discussion

Dr. Bawa: They have a very loving and affectionate relationship and met online on a dating app about a year ago. They were long distance for a while, and then Jim moved to South Florida to be with Cindy full time. They needed a boost in the bedroom, and that is when they researched the field of sexual wellness extensively and found me. They came to my practice, Bawa Medical in Boca Raton, Florida. Cindy wanted the vagina of her youth, and Jim was not going to be left behind. He wanted a penis that put men half his age to shame.

Dr. Bawa: And I think we achieved that for both of them. They are currently having sex a whopping 14 times per week. I will remind you that the average people in their 60s are having sex about 25 times per year. These two lovebirds are 69 and 70. Let me do the math for you.

[02:24] Continued Discussion

Dr. Bawa: At 14 times per week for 52 weeks, these kids are having sex 728 times a year. And I'm not counting the days when they have what they call nooners - the times they have sex during the day on their lunch break. May I add that they both still work. So how did they end up having this much sex and such a loving and affectionate relationship at this point in their lives? Well, let's find out. Jim and Cindy, welcome to the Dr. Sex Fairy Podcast.

Dr. Bawa: I am quite sure that our listeners around the world can't wait to hear how you both got to this point.

[03:15] How Jim and Cindy Met

Jim: Well, thanks for having us. I'll start off here. Divine intervention is the only thing I can say that put us together. I was living in Las Vegas, she was living in South Florida, and I was dating a few different women on some dating sites. Quite frankly, I was kind of fed up with it. I was just about ready to get off the site and take a break from the whole thing. I was seeing a few women from time to time, but it wasn't anything steady. It was just hit and miss.

Jim: If I wanted to have sex with someone, I had two or three different girlfriends and that was it. Women my age, or a little bit younger, that was good enough. Don't park your boots under my bed for more than a weekend. Believe it or not, that sounds wonderful, but that got a little old too. I'd been divorced for about ten years.

[04:31] Continued Discussion

Jim: Then I was all ready to be done and an email came through saying Cindy, some number in South Florida, kind of liked me. So I got back with her online and we got each other's phone numbers. That was February 26th. Eight days later, I'm on a plane flying to Boca Raton.

Dr. Bawa: And you didn't waste any time.

Jim: I didn't. I always come from the school of: you miss every pitch you don't swing at.

Dr. Bawa: That's a good point.

Jim: I just had a real special feeling about Cindy. I really did. We hit it off right away. Since I came across the country, she took me out to dinner. We had talked quite a bit before I came to Florida, and I asked her how long she thought I should stay. I said I'd get a hotel room. She said, 'I plan for three, but pack for six.' Six days later, I changed my flight and flew back to Las Vegas. The rest, as they say, is history. We just hit it off really, really well.

[05:55] Continued Discussion

Jim: I could tell this was going to be real special.

Dr. Bawa: When you know, you know.

Jim: When you know, you know. I think I've talked enough for a minute.

Dr. Bawa: Cindy, it's your time.

[06:11] Early Chemistry and Five Hours in Bed

Cindy: You didn't say anything about the five hours, about how we spent the week.

Dr. Bawa: You'll have to come closer to the mic, Cindy.

Jim: Let me interject here. Please understand, folks, that I'm 69 years old. I just turned 69 in October. Cindy will be 70 in February. When you're our age, it's not like you're 22. You just know when you're older. You either know or you don't. We were very attracted to each other, so we started having sex right away.

Cindy: You had a late afternoon, early evening flight.

Jim: So we spent five hours in bed together.

Cindy: Not bad.

Jim: No, and it was practically constant the whole time for five hours. Then I got on a plane and went back. Two weeks later she decided, 'I'm going to come to Las Vegas.' Those were the longest two weeks of my life.

[07:18] Continued Discussion

Cindy: I saw him in Las Vegas. We stayed at the Paris for three nights, and we've been together basically ever since.

Dr. Bawa: That's awesome. So what brought you to Dr. Sex Fairy?

[07:33] Why They Sought Sexual Wellness Treatment

Cindy: I have some medical issues, number one, which is one of the reasons I wanted to see you. And the side effects are that you have improved sensitivity, and when you have an orgasm it's stronger and more lubricating than a regular orgasm.

Dr. Bawa: And that's what brought you to me.

Cindy: Yeah, that and my medical issues. We've always had a great sex life right from the very beginning. But it's hard to keep up every night, most mornings, et cetera, when you're in your late sixties.

Dr. Bawa: It's a lot of sex for any age.

Cindy: We want to be together and we like being together, but every once in a while it was difficult for Jim to get ready. He was mentally ready, but not necessarily physically ready.

[08:34] Continued Discussion

Jim: For me to come into a relationship this intense after being single was different. When I was single, sex was readily available to me. If I didn't feel like it or I was tired from a couple of nights, I just wouldn't be with anybody. I'd play poker, maybe go out with a friend and have a bowl of ramen, and go home. I never really noticed anything.

Jim: When I got with Cindy, and it was so good and we both wanted to have sex all the time, after three or four nights and a couple of mornings, I'm like, whoa. Our sessions at the beginning were almost an hour every time.

[09:27] Continued Discussion

Cindy: I think we still do plenty of hours.

Jim: We do plenty of one-hour sessions. But I got to the point where I couldn't keep up. Quite frankly, I couldn't keep up the pace. I felt bad, and she got frustrated at the beginning. I had always prided myself on being in good shape and taking care of myself. When I was younger, that part was never an issue. I never took any pills or anything. So I'm thinking, what's next? We had fallen in love and it was a very, very important part of our life.

Cindy: It was necessary but not sufficient.

Dr. Bawa: Necessary but not sufficient. I think that's awesome.

[10:19] Continued Discussion

Cindy: Having a really good sex life and being really attracted to each other adds to intimacy. He even said last night that it was a spiritual and emotional connection. It wasn't just sex.

Jim: That really made it different. I've been around for a long time. I've had sex plenty of times before. We're open with each other about our histories. But never have I felt this way about another person in my life. It's not just the sex part; it's the emotional and spiritual connection. But I got to the point where I couldn't get hard. I couldn't get it up to keep up the pace, and I knew she wanted to keep up the pace.

[11:15] Continued Discussion

Cindy: It wasn't on and off. He'd go through two weeks of being fabulous, having sex for an hour or an hour and a half every night, or having sex for an hour and then resting and having sex again for another hour. Then we'd have five days or a week where it was just difficult. That was tough emotionally. I'm very attracted to him and I have a lot of desire for him. I didn't want to try to control it, dampen it down, or make it go away because he couldn't perform.

[11:59] Coming to Bawa Medical

Dr. Bawa: And that's when you came to me.

Cindy: Yeah. That's right.

Dr. Bawa: And then you brought him in. You came first.

Cindy: Yeah, I came first.

Dr. Bawa: You always come first. The mark of a gentleman.

Cindy: Anyway, I found out about what you had for men, so I said to him, 'Why don't you just go ahead and do it?'

Dr. Bawa: You signed him right up.

Cindy: Yep. And we don't have problems anymore. Once in a great while we'll go to sleep just because we're exhausted.

Dr. Bawa: But otherwise it's sex at least twice a day, most days. Do you realize you're having sex about 728 times a year?

[12:48] How Much Sex Are They Really Having?

Jim: Actually, we've done a little math. We travel a lot too. We figured in the ten months we've known each other, we've probably spent over 60 days in motel rooms. And we like motel rooms. The beds are always really nice and firm. We sat down because we knew it was a lot and tried to figure out how many times we've had sex up until now.

Cindy: Probably more like 500.

Jim: Oh, it's more than 500.

Cindy: And we spent a month apart.

Jim: That's another thing. I'm a part-time consultant, and I got called away to Wisconsin for nearly the whole month of October.

Cindy: And then you had trips, and then we were gone for the two weeks.

[13:44] Continued Discussion

Jim: My 50th class reunion was during that time. I took the weekend off and Cindy came back to Wisconsin. I had not seen her for 16 days.

Dr. Bawa: Oh my goodness. How did that go?

Cindy: We were together four days.

Jim: In those four days we had sex at least 16 times. One of the times I counted was for three hours, and I only counted that as one.

Cindy: You only counted that as one.

Jim: I only counted that as one. Sixteen times in four days.

Cindy: And we managed to go to the reunion, see friends of his, go to dinner, and everything else.

Jim: We did all that too. We like each other a lot.

[14:37] Continued Discussion

Cindy: You came four times.

Jim: Yeah.

Cindy: Four times. Beyond legendary.

Jim: Like my T-shirt. I have a T-shirt that says 'Beyond Legendary' that my daughter bought me.

Dr. Bawa: I love that T-shirt. I think this is what dreams are made of. People half your age aren't having that kind of relationship, that kind of connection, and certainly not that kind of sex. I'm sure listeners are wondering what we did to help you in that journey, so I'll briefly interrupt your story to tell them.

[15:17] Cindy's Vaginal Rejuvenation Treatments

Dr. Bawa: With you, we did a CO2 laser of your vagina, internal and external. We did it three times. That's how we do the package because it really has to be done three times to get a definitive result. One helps, but three is what you need to make that change long term. CO2 is outstanding when it comes to vaginal rejuvenation. It rebuilds the inside of the vagina. In your case, we did the outside too. You're forming more collagen, tightening the vagina, and becoming more lubricated. It's a win-win situation on so many levels.

Dr. Bawa: We also did an O-Shot with you. An O-Shot is the orgasm shot, and I'm one of the few doctors in the world actually certified in it. We did the O-Shot on you, which again was painless. Then we did the wing lift on you.

[16:23] Continued Discussion

Cindy: But you also did something with the O-Shot, some other exosomes.

Dr. Bawa: We added exosomes to concentrate it even further. We amped it up, turbocharged your O-Shot, and gave it to you painlessly. We also did the wing lift and rejuvenated your labia. Labial rejuvenation is important. At this point, you ended up with a brand-spanking-new vagina.

Cindy: And I also had, so far, one of the FemiWaves?

Dr. Bawa: Yes, the acoustic wave therapy. We did that on you as well.

Cindy: Gosh, that was really something.

Dr. Bawa: Wasn't it awesome? I told you your vagina was going to sing, baby. And it's singing, isn't it?

Jim: I've heard it, tell you.

[17:14] Continued Discussion

Dr. Bawa: You hear it sing loud and clear.

Cindy: I had that maybe a week or so before I went to see him in Wisconsin.

Dr. Bawa: I told you to get that. In fact, there was absolutely no charge for that. I just wanted you to experience what acoustic wave therapy done right can do. As one of the leading practices in the world when it comes to intimate wellness, I have turned science into an art form. I really wanted you to experience what the entire combination - what, in my opinion, is the holy grail of vaginal rejuvenation - meant.

[18:00] Sex, Confidence, and Feeling Young

Cindy: It also changes things. We have a certain relationship. It's very, very romantic. He's more romantic than I am. We're very close. So it's not just the physical aspect of it. I think the fact that we have a great sex life helps us act young and be young.

Dr. Bawa: You went scuba diving. I saw it on Facebook. I was very impressed.

Cindy: Yeah. I know nobody can see me, but we look great.

Dr. Bawa: You do look great. Spiffy little pair.

Cindy: It gives us confidence, and when you look good, you feel good.

Dr. Bawa: And when you're having good sex, you strut. You don't just walk, you strut.

[18:50] Continued Discussion

Cindy: It's good for the endorphins.

Dr. Bawa: Absolutely. Every time you have sex, endorphins, baby.

Cindy: And endorphins are good for your brain.

Dr. Bawa: One hundred percent true. And let's talk about you now, Jim. With you, we did acoustic wave therapy as well.

[19:09] Jim's Treatments: Acoustic Wave Therapy and P-Shot

Jim: Yes.

Dr. Bawa: What we did with Cindy at the end, we started with that with you. The idea behind acoustic wave therapy for men and women is that it breaks down blockages. Our blood vessels aren't smart enough to know where they are. Think about heart disease: as people get older, plaques build up in the arteries of the heart. Well, the blood vessels in the groin can get blocked too. Doctors nowadays have this concept of Viagra and Cialis to fix it, but they're not fixing it. They're hiding the problem. They're cloaking it.

Dr. Bawa: It's a Band-Aid, and not a very good one at that. You'll attest to this: I have never prescribed you any of that stuff.

[20:06] Continued Discussion

Jim: No.

Dr. Bawa: I never even offered it to you as an option.

Jim: No.

Dr. Bawa: Because what's the point? We need to make you better. You did six acoustic wave therapy treatments. They were broken up a little because you went out of town on one of your trips. We did the P-Shot the first day we did your acoustic wave therapy, which I think is the ideal way to do it, because you bring all that good oxygenated blood into the area. I then do the P-Shot, and I think you have a more synergistic and much better response.

Cindy: At the very end, he had another one too.

[20:56] Continued Discussion

Dr. Bawa: Yeah, he did. After you came back and we finished your treatments, we did another P-Shot. So what is a P-Shot? A P-Shot is a Priapus Shot. It's what we were discussing earlier about the O-Shot; it is the male version of it. We take blood from your arm, spin it down into platelet-rich plasma, and concentrate it further at our practice, making it a fibrin matrix with more concentrated growth factors. In Cindy's case, we added exosomes. That's one of our options to turbocharge it even more.

Dr. Bawa: With you, we did the P-Shot, then acoustic wave therapy, finished the six treatments, and then did another P-Shot. The results are clearly outstanding, because now you're having sex hundreds of times a year while people your age are having sex an average of 25 times a year.

[22:01] Continued Discussion

Cindy: Twice a month? I can't. That's like a day for you.

Jim: Some days more. Routinely.

[22:08] Still Dating Each Other

Jim: I'm surprising her tomorrow. There's a concert a few hours away. We're going to go for the day, go out to dinner, go to the concert, and come home the next day. We want to leave early because I said, 'We'll get that motel room early before dinner.'

Dr. Bawa: Oh my goodness. Hashtag goals.

Cindy: That's happened a few times.

Jim: That's happened more than once.

Dr. Bawa: I bet you two miss dinner reservations all the time.

Cindy: We're pretty good about that. We like going out for dinner.

Jim: Yeah, we do. That's one of our favorites.

Dr. Bawa: You're getting married.

[22:53] The Proposal and Their Wedding

Jim: Yes. I was afraid of really messing up a really good thing, and I didn't know how to say this to Cindy. I had to go out of town for work. It was pretty intense working conditions, and I knew I was going to get a break after 16 days. I had a lot of time on the job and a lot of time to think without having Cindy around. We talked almost every day. Cindy has a wonderful son named Danny.

Jim: Danny made us promise that we would love each other and be together, but we really weren't supposed to talk about anything in the future until October. Just live in the present for a few months.

[23:50] Continued Discussion

Cindy: That's what my son made us promise. Don't get carried away. Don't talk about the future. Just be together and enjoy each other until October.

Jim: Then October comes and I'm gone. I had a lot of time to think about it. She came up there, we were in the motel room and in bed, and I looked at her and said, 'Cindy, I've discovered something.' She said, 'What's that?' I said, 'I want to spend the rest of my life with you.' We hadn't talked about marriage or any arrangements up until that point. I didn't want to run her off. This was a really great thing. I knew she loved me, but you want to take it to that next level.

[24:48] Continued Discussion

Jim: I said, 'I want to spend the rest of my life with you.' And she said, 'I have to process this.'

Dr. Bawa: I love that. Only Cindy would say, 'I have to process that.'

Jim: We spent the next two days together. I didn't say a word.

Dr. Bawa: Oh my God, she made you stew over this.

Jim: She did. Gentlemen, let me tell you: if a woman says she wants to think about it, let her think. Let her come back to you.

Cindy: I'm always that way with everything that he initiates.

Jim: Don't push it. Just be a nice guy. Be a gentleman. She came back and said, 'I thought a lot about what you said, and I agree. I would like to spend the rest of my life with you too, but I don't want to spend it as boyfriend and girlfriend.' One day we went down to the beach together. On the way down, I ran up the lifeguard tower, handed my phone to the lifeguard and said, 'Record this.

[26:08] Continued Discussion

Jim: Do me a favor.' I said, 'I'm going to ask that woman to marry me.' I got down on my knee, and when we got up there were six surfers standing on the beach clapping for us.

Dr. Bawa: Awesome. You've got to record those moments.

Cindy: We're getting married on the beach. I'm wearing a white satin bikini.

Dr. Bawa: Of course you are. And you'll be lucky to make it back to the room for the sex.

Jim: We are going to have people there for lunch and things like that. Somebody asked where we're spending our honeymoon. We live in South Florida, right? The bedroom. We got a really nice room at a very nice hotel, and we're going to go out to dinner at the first place we went out to dinner that night. That's it.

[27:12] Continued Discussion

Cindy: The thing is, what we're telling you is real.

Dr. Bawa: I know. I believe it. I've seen so much of it evolve in front of my own eyes.

Cindy: It's real. Some people might not believe it even if we were 39.

Dr. Bawa: People don't believe it. The YouTube videos I have with the two of you are amazing because you're so honest in them, yet people ask me what I paid you or why you're exaggerating so much. Why would you exaggerate? What's the secondary gain? There isn't any. This is the truth. This is your story.

[27:57] Health Habits and Sexual Vitality

Jim: I play a lot of poker. I was at a poker table the other day and showed one guy a beautiful picture of Cindy on my phone. I said, 'I'm marrying this woman in two weeks.' We got talking, and he asked me, 'Guys your age, what's your sex life like?' I looked at him and said, 'You're not going to believe me if I tell you.' He said, 'Try me.' I told him, and his eyes popped out of his head. He asked if I used anything.

Jim: I said, 'I don't take any pills, but I had this thing called a P-Shot, and that really helped a lot.' He wanted to know what he had to look forward to. I'll tell you what's very important. You need to get the right amount of sleep. We exercise regularly. We eat right. That's all part of it. These shots are magic, but you have to do the rest of the thing. He also said, 'Nobody in this room ever talks about their sex life like you.'

[29:21] Continued Discussion

Dr. Bawa: And remember when somebody asked you, 'When is the last time you had sex?'

Jim: If anybody asks me when the last time I had sex was, my standard answer is, 'What time is it now?'

Dr. Bawa: Epic.

Cindy: This man is epic. But I should say this also: it doesn't mean he walks around with an erection all the time. Sometimes he gets in bed and if we just relax, we're together, kissing and stuff like that, it happens.

Dr. Bawa: It's easy to happen now.

Cindy: He gets an erection after 10 or 15 minutes, maybe.

[30:04] Living Their Best Life

Jim: This is probably another important thing, at least for me. Cindy and I are very compatible partners. That's a big deal. I'm 69 years old. Don't get me wrong, I've had a wonderful life. My career was wonderful. It was a career I wanted to have ever since I was a little boy. I had a good run. I traveled. I did really, really well, and Cindy did as well. She was very successful. But I feel, and I think Cindy agrees, we're living our best life right now.

Cindy: If you're running toward the finish line, it's good. You don't want to have a so-called great life and then when you get older it's horrible. You want to finish well.

[31:02] Continued Discussion

Dr. Bawa: You're definitely finishing strong.

Jim: I think that's a big deal. It's been great. Joe Walsh had that song, 'Life's Been Good,' and it is getting better.

Cindy: The other thing is that we try to make each other happy. It's not just intercourse, it's other stuff. There's nothing better than trying to make your partner happy, and it's very satisfying for yourself as well.

Dr. Bawa: Absolutely. As I've said before, you give people half your age hope. Seeing you both gives me so much happiness and satisfaction because I do this for moments just like this, for effects just like this. I say at the beginning of my podcast that I'm Dr. Kanwal Bawa and I'm here to transform lives, and I mean that. With your story, people see that I do that. Bawa Medical has been a labor of love. I have done things there to change lives, improve quality of life, and do things people never thought were possible before.

[32:18] Continued Discussion

Dr. Bawa: The fact that word has spread and people are coming to me from around the world proves that when you truly want to make change happen and you do the work to develop and perfect treatments, amazing change can happen. Somebody who is 69 or 70 years old can be having sex twice a day, seven days a week.

Cindy: It's not just having sex. It's good sex.

Jim: It's good sex, absolutely.

Dr. Bawa: And that's why I have an invitation to the wedding.

[32:56] Closing

Dr. Bawa: Well, thank you. Thank you both for coming today. Thank you for sharing your story so honestly and for taking time out of your very busy lives to come speak to me here at the studio. I am delighted to have played a part in your story. I am delighted that what we did worked and continues to work long after we're done.

[33:26] Recorded Outro

Dr. Bawa: I hope you enjoyed the Dr. Sex Fairy Podcast today. I would love to continue this conversation with you. If you would like my top three secrets for amazing sex, send me an email at askme@drsexfairy.com and I will share them with you. Don't forget to follow this podcast and leave me a five-star review. Until next time.